I just received word that there will be new reports on CBS 47 Newsand First Coast News tonight. So please be watching. You will be shocked at what the news will be, it is worth watching. (1/7/08 Monday)
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HOW COULD THE DEACONS OF THE CHURCH KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND NOT SAY ANYTHING. GOD SAYS NOT TO JUDGE BUT WHAT ARE YOU TO DO I A CASE LIKE THIS.
Tiffany - very interesting that the reporter on CBS 47 tonight said that Gilyard is out of town "looking for another job." It will be interesting to see what kind of job he might be able to get at this point, other than one that requires a hair net and a name badge.
Blessed: There is so much more I wish I could say about the cover up. There are so many sad stories. There are a lot of things for the deacons of that church and others to answer for. Pray for them because they will have to answer before the Almighty for what they participated in covering up. Hopefully it will all become public knowledge soon.
Lady T: They have every right to file civil suits, and they have the evidence to do so. There are cases of others filing against churches for similar stories and winning. I would like to see the church elders who tried to cover this up (and succeeded with others inrecent years) be held accountable. There needs to be a clear message that this will not be tolerated anymore. I know a lot of people in the church are innocent of the scandal, they are victims to. But, on the other hand, there are many who have known of this and other stories fo these last years and helped to make them go away. It is an absolute shame. I don't know how they sleep at night.
Many continue to misunderstand what Christ says about judging. Please study the text, context, and whole analogy of Matthew 7:1-2 relative to Judging. Later in the same chapter, Christ says, don't cast your pearls before swine". He also states (same chapter), "Don't give that which is holy to dogs". Here are some other scriptures on judging rightly:
(John 7:24) "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment".
(1Cor. 5:12) "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?"
(1Cor. 6:3) "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"
Gilyard, Vines, etc. apparently did not preach on these verses -- I heard Vines at Trinity after Gray had been arrested; he never preached against sins of anyone, although he shared many good points.
Tiffany-You shouldn't judge others for not coming forward. It took you 16 years and you came in on the coat tails of two young girls......who are REAL victims.
I am in no way judging those... if you go back and read my actual posts, I speak of the courage it takes, I encourage them to come out, I also talk about how I wish I had the courage years ago, and how I have struggled with what to do these past years while He was at Shiloh. I did not come out on the coat tails, but came under them as support. They cannot speak publicly - they are underage and the parents are told by detectives not to speak out. I am glad what happened withme can be used to help bring light to this story that might otherwise have been covered up. Thank you for sharing your feelings.
For weeks, I have sat at my computer and read several of the blogs on this issue. Just knowing that it might be possible that Gilyard will get away with this despicable behavior angers me. It angers me especially because I was a member of Shiloh for 13 years. I am a friend of one of the victim's mother and have known about the situation from the beginning. I left Shiloh upon hearing what my friend said he did to her daughter. There was no way I would continue to be under a pastor that does those types of things. I have a daughter and 4 grandchildren (all girls). I put myself in my friend's shoes and thought of what would I do if it were my child or grandchild that this happened to. That was just the background for what I am about to say now. Following is my appeal to Gilyard's victims: I know there are other victims out there and for whatever reason, they are afraid to come forward. Don't give Gilyard credit for more power than he has. The only true power he has over you is the power you give him. Take Tiffany Croft, for example. She came forward and nothing has happened to her. I'm sure she's gotten messages from people that don't believe her, but she is still living and breathing. By not coming forward, you are just as guilty as Gilyard because if he gets away with this again, he will re-offend. You will in essence make him feel more powerful and that he is above the law. He will feel that he is unstoppable. That is why he offends in the church instead of the outside world. He knows that because he is such a dynamic speaker (I no longer call him a pastor) that people will not be able to wrap their mind around the fact that these accusations are true. Wake up victims!!! It's time to stop listening to the rap music world about not snitching. This is the time to snitch and stop being selfish by thinking of only yourself. Some of his victims are young teenagers. The parents of these children should be like my friend and try to not only protect their own children, but other children as well. The next time he offends may be the time that he does something immoral to one of your children or some other family member's children. He must be stopped and now is the time, not later. Today is the day for speaking out. I don't know how people can live with themselves knowing that they could have done something but didn't. I don't fear anyone but God and you shouldn't either. God would want you to come forward and tell the truth. Therefore, be obedient and do what God says to do. God is the only one that can protect you. Gilyard certainly didn't. I know I will probably hear criticism back from some of you, but oh well, bring it on. Just know that I was a victim of attempted rape at age 11 by an unknown assailant that broke into our home in the middle of the night. I fought him off and I reported it to the police, but nothing was done. When you are a victim and nothing is done about it, it only deepens the wound. Don't think that because you don't say anything about what Gilyard did to you that it will just go away. It will come out in other ways (drugs, alcohol, promiscuity, lack of trust in people, etc). Do you want this for yourself or your children? If not, then please speak to the authorities. If you don't know how to go about it, ask Tiffany Croft. God Bless!
Tiffany I heard, you like him and he didnt want you and you followed him here from Texas LOL hilarious, now your following him to Atlanta. Looks like You cant get enough of Darryl to me, Can you say big daddy! LOL I sould stop your games before you wind up in the press with him and you wont be posing in front of the cameras you will be in tears and embarressed. Wonder what can be dug up in your past, looks like I got work to do. Usually where you see a trash can there is trash on the floor around it LOL, looks like i found a mess. I see you delete real threads and keep the ones posted that feed your distorted mind.
You said you prayed God would make you ill before the interview, if this little charade your wrapped up in and dragging your family through for no reason if this was not to be. Dont depend on God to make your choices that is yours. A robber does'nt say Lord let me get ill if this is wrong and if he doesnt get Ill then it's ok. Give me a break. If oyu have to ask if doing something is wrong then IT IS sister. And this blog is so sinful it is making me ill. I really can't believe you think your doing this in the "name oof the Lord" Im speechless. Im sure he is to. Sad part is you know this is wrong and you like doing it. Your not of God you of your father the devil and that is why you like it. Your poor husband , I hope he isnt wrapped around some other girl while you play fantacy with the media.
Why don't you go start your own blog and stop fouling up this one!
Tiffany is doing the right thing.
Since what she is doing is so appauling to you, there are plenty of other sites you can visit on the World Wide Web. And, while your at it, read your Bible so that you can get a better understanding of God's Word!
To css and reporter.If you would only read the the Bible instead of using it for a coaster,you would know that the Apostle Paul called out by name those imposters that were infecting the early church.Paul commanded the church to "Listen to no accusation against an elder(pastor) unless IT IS CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO ARE THREE WITNESSES(Darrell has multiple witnesses against him).As for those who are guilty and persist in sin,rebuke and admonish them in the presence of all,so that the rest may be warned and stand in wholesome awe and fear".Paul futher wrote "I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the chosen angels that you guard and keep[these rules]without personal prejudice or favor,doing nothing from partiality"[1Tim.5:19-21 amplified].In Eph.5 Paul wrote Be you therefore followers of God as dear children;And walk in love,as Christ also hath loved us,and hith given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.But fornication,and all uncleaness,or covetousness,LET IT NOT BE ONCE NAMED AMONG YOU,AS BECOMING OF SAINTS;For this you KNOW,that no WHOREMONGER,nor unclean person,nor covetous man,who is an idolater,hath any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God.Let no man deceive you with vain words:for bcause OF THESE THINGS COMETH THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE.Be not you therefore associates with them.And have no fellowship with the unfruitful deeds of darkness,BUT INSTEAD EXPOSE THEM[EPH 5:1-3,7,10-11].There are many more passages that I could write but what the use;You two guys haven't finish dringing your coffee.
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HOW COULD THE DEACONS OF THE CHURCH KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND NOT SAY ANYTHING. GOD SAYS NOT TO JUDGE BUT WHAT ARE YOU TO DO I A CASE LIKE THIS.
Tiffany - very interesting that the reporter on CBS 47 tonight said that Gilyard is out of town "looking for another job." It will be interesting to see what kind of job he might be able to get at this point, other than one that requires a hair net and a name badge.
Blessed: There is so much more I wish I could say about the cover up. There are so many sad stories. There are a lot of things for the deacons of that church and others to answer for. Pray for them because they will have to answer before the Almighty for what they participated in covering up.
Hopefully it will all become public knowledge soon.
Amen Tiffany!
Do you think the families will file civil suit against him or/and the church?
Lady T:
They have every right to file civil suits, and they have the evidence to do so. There are cases of others filing against churches for similar stories and winning.
I would like to see the church elders who tried to cover this up (and succeeded with others inrecent years) be held accountable. There needs to be a clear message that this will not be tolerated anymore.
I know a lot of people in the church are innocent of the scandal, they are victims to. But, on the other hand, there are many who have known of this and other stories fo these last years and helped to make them go away.
It is an absolute shame. I don't know how they sleep at night.
Many continue to misunderstand what Christ says about judging. Please study the text, context, and whole analogy of Matthew 7:1-2 relative to Judging. Later in the same chapter, Christ says, don't cast your pearls before swine". He also states (same chapter), "Don't give that which is holy to dogs". Here are some other scriptures on judging rightly:
(John 7:24) "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment".
(1Cor. 5:12) "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?"
(1Cor. 6:3) "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"
Gilyard, Vines, etc. apparently did not preach on these verses -- I heard Vines at Trinity after Gray had been arrested; he never preached against sins of anyone, although he shared many good points.
Tiffany-You shouldn't judge others for not coming forward. It took you 16 years and you came in on the coat tails of two young girls......who are REAL victims.
I am in no way judging those... if you go back and read my actual posts, I speak of the courage it takes, I encourage them to come out, I also talk about how I wish I had the courage years ago, and how I have struggled with what to do these past years while He was at Shiloh. I did not come out on the coat tails, but came under them as support. They cannot speak publicly - they are underage and the parents are told by detectives not to speak out. I am glad what happened withme can be used to help bring light to this story that might otherwise have been covered up. Thank you for sharing your feelings.
For weeks, I have sat at my computer and read several of the blogs on this issue. Just knowing that it might be possible that Gilyard will get away with this despicable behavior angers me. It angers me especially because I was a member of Shiloh for 13 years. I am a friend of one of the victim's mother and have known about the situation from the beginning. I left Shiloh upon hearing what my friend said he did to her daughter. There was no way I would continue to be under a pastor that does those types of things. I have a daughter and 4 grandchildren (all girls). I put myself in my friend's shoes and thought of what would I do if it were my child or grandchild that this happened to. That was just the background for what I am about to say now. Following is my appeal to Gilyard's victims: I know there are other victims out there and for whatever reason, they are afraid to come forward. Don't give Gilyard credit for more power than he has. The only true power he has over you is the power you give him. Take Tiffany Croft, for example. She came forward and nothing has happened to her. I'm sure she's gotten messages from people that don't believe her, but she is still living and breathing. By not coming forward, you are just as guilty as Gilyard because if he gets away with this again, he will re-offend. You will in essence make him feel more powerful and that he is above the law. He will feel that he is unstoppable. That is why he offends in the church instead of the outside world. He knows that because he is such a dynamic speaker (I no longer call him a pastor) that people will not be able to wrap their mind around the fact that these accusations are true. Wake up victims!!! It's time to stop listening to the rap music world about not snitching. This is the time to snitch and stop being selfish by thinking of only yourself. Some of his victims are young teenagers. The parents of these children should be like my friend and try to not only protect their own children, but other children as well. The next time he offends may be the time that he does something immoral to one of your children or some other family member's children. He must be stopped and now is the time, not later. Today is the day for speaking out. I don't know how people can live with themselves knowing that they could have done something but didn't. I don't fear anyone but God and you shouldn't either. God would want you to come forward and tell the truth. Therefore, be obedient and do what God says to do. God is the only one that can protect you. Gilyard certainly didn't. I know I will probably hear criticism back from some of you, but oh well, bring it on. Just know that I was a victim of attempted rape at age 11 by an unknown assailant that broke into our home in the middle of the night. I fought him off and I reported it to the police, but nothing was done. When you are a victim and nothing is done about it, it only deepens the wound. Don't think that because you don't say anything about what Gilyard did to you that it will just go away. It will come out in other ways (drugs, alcohol, promiscuity, lack of trust in people, etc). Do you want this for yourself or your children? If not, then please speak to the authorities. If you don't know how to go about it, ask Tiffany Croft. God Bless!
Tiffany I heard, you like him and he didnt want you and you followed him here from Texas LOL hilarious, now your following him to Atlanta. Looks like You cant get enough of Darryl to me, Can you say big daddy! LOL I sould stop your games before you wind up in the press with him and you wont be posing in front of the cameras you will be in tears and embarressed. Wonder what can be dug up in your past, looks like I got work to do. Usually where you see a trash can there is trash on the floor around it LOL, looks like i found a mess. I see you delete real threads and keep the ones posted that feed your distorted mind.
And stop putting God in your GLory game iM sure hes ready to puke by now. Pray about that.
You said you prayed God would make you ill before the interview, if this little charade your wrapped up in and dragging your family through for no reason if this was not to be. Dont depend on God to make your choices that is yours. A robber does'nt say Lord let me get ill if this is wrong and if he doesnt get Ill then it's ok. Give me a break. If oyu have to ask if doing something is wrong then IT IS sister. And this blog is so sinful it is making me ill. I really can't believe you think your doing this in the "name oof the Lord" Im speechless. Im sure he is to. Sad part is you know this is wrong and you like doing it. Your not of God you of your father the devil and that is why you like it. Your poor husband , I hope he isnt wrapped around some other girl while you play fantacy with the media.
To: Reporter and CSS,
Why don't you go start your own blog and stop fouling up this one!
Tiffany is doing the right thing.
Since what she is doing is so appauling to you, there are plenty of other sites you can visit on the World Wide Web. And, while your at it, read your Bible so that you can get a better understanding of God's Word!
To css and reporter.If you would only read the the Bible instead of using it for a coaster,you would know that the Apostle Paul called out by name those imposters that were infecting the early church.Paul commanded the church to "Listen to no accusation against an elder(pastor) unless IT IS CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO ARE THREE WITNESSES(Darrell has multiple witnesses against him).As for those who are guilty and persist in sin,rebuke and admonish them in the presence of all,so that the rest may be warned and stand in wholesome awe and fear".Paul futher wrote "I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the chosen angels that you guard and keep[these rules]without personal prejudice or favor,doing nothing from partiality"[1Tim.5:19-21 amplified].In Eph.5 Paul wrote Be you therefore followers of God as dear children;And walk in love,as Christ also hath loved us,and hith given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.But fornication,and all uncleaness,or covetousness,LET IT NOT BE ONCE NAMED AMONG YOU,AS BECOMING OF SAINTS;For this you KNOW,that no WHOREMONGER,nor unclean person,nor covetous man,who is an idolater,hath any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God.Let no man deceive you with vain words:for bcause OF THESE THINGS COMETH THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE.Be not you therefore associates with them.And have no fellowship with the unfruitful deeds of darkness,BUT INSTEAD EXPOSE THEM[EPH 5:1-3,7,10-11].There are many more passages that I could write but what the use;You two guys haven't finish dringing your coffee.
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