Thursday, October 16, 2008

Paternity Suit and still Preaching

It is time to sound the alarms once again. As many of you know, Darrell Gilyard is currently facing his first public Paternity suit, see https://showcase.duvalclerk.com/SearchForCases.aspx A brave woman has come forward to seek damages against him. There are many others and maybe they will gain courage to do the same. These are his children, they deserve to be provided for. It is time he has to answer for some of these lives he has left in ruins. These precious children deserve so much more than this.

In the meantime, he is resuming life as if nothing has happened. Continuing to preach and act as if he has done no wrong. Not once has he apologized to any of his victims. He has not acknowledged a need for help. He has not even taken time off to seek help. The sad thing is that he continues to find churches that welcome him into their pulpits.
The latest church is out of his hometown of Palatka, Fl. He is scheduled to preach their as early as this Sunday. Rumor has it that he may even be being looked at to eventually replace the current Pastor. Can you believe it? The current Pastor is Frederick Demps. The church is:

Calvary Missionary Baptist Church
Pastor Frederick Demps
322 N. 10th Street
386-328-4420

There is so much I would like to say here, but I truly feel my job is only to alert you and keep this in the spotlight. If it is left in the dark, as we know, evil is allowed to prosper there.
Lord, please help us keep evil out of our churches, protect the innocent. Holy Spirit, trouble the souls of those who are allowing this. Let them not be able to be settled in their Spirits. Lord, deliver this nation from this corruption that is taking over our churches and leaving in its wake tattered souls and lives. Church is your home Lord, we desire to protect your temple God. Let us glorify you in all of our ways and in our worship. We will not allow this evil to take over, we will fight the good fight. Give us wisdom, lead us and guide is in your precious and HOLY name, Jesus. Pray people, this is not over yet.

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Anonymous said...

Tiffany, thank you for continuing to provide updates. God is faithful! Everything will catch up to him sooner or later. We must continue to pray and encourage the families that are involved. I pray that the women/young girls that were violated remain strong and trust God throughout this legal process. God is with you... don't be afraid.

DFSA said...

I understand Tiffany how you may be feeling. I will continue also in praying for the ladies and for all those that has not yet came forward.

DG is blinded and using the LORD name to do his dirt. This will not go on too long. You know when things go too far left, it will straighten out with a cost.

Thank you for keeping this site open and up to date.

dfsa said...

I am sure there are many more out there. I hope they will come forward too.

Also, people who are into greed/money/power, it is impossible for them to please God. They will become obvious and more brazen.

Anonymous said...

Tiffany, why is it taking so long for the trial to come about concerning the girls at Shiloh? It has been so long; I suppose his attorney is continuing to stall and for public sentiment to lessen.

Esther

Anonymous said...

darrel is a hoe and he very selfish you have to know him to belive any of this.yes ladies and churches please look out why the members at shiloh call his office the hoe-tel. SIT THAT MAN DOWN

Anonymous said...

ask mert how much money she took for him.

Anonymous said...

darrel you said without you shiloh would fall to the waist side. you better go there and take alook there is a movement going on over there H.B. CHARLES IS FILLING WHAT WAS YOURS NOW THAT CHURCH BELONGS TO GOD FOR REAL

Anonymous said...

Anon:October 16, 2008 10:55 PM


What do you been by this:

Anonymous said...
ask mert how much money she took for him.

Anonymous said...

I too am looking forward for his trial to begin and be over with, like the families involved I'm sure. Let us all pray for the victims/families' calm and strength, the Lord is on their side in this matter. Please do not let time take its toll as dg's defense desires. Will it be set to begin on the 20th or will we have to wait and see again? If there is a "guilty" outcome in court on Gilyard will it prevent him from being able to get in the pulpit again? One hopes DG will be gotten out of the pulpit .. somehow.

Can Tiffany or anyone else answer these questions?

Anonymous said...

To annon 10:55 p.m.
Is the Mert, Merceda Key?

Anonymous said...

"In the meantime, he is resuming life as if nothing has happened...." This is NOT unusual for narcissistic sociopathic sexual predators. They have no conscience.

The amazing thing is also the "sad thing": "he continues to find churches that welcome him into their pulpits."

How many scriptures do sexual predator pastors have to violate before the church gets it? We are living in fearful days when the church disobeys God's mandates about sexual immorality among church leaders.

Anyone who is in the least bit concerned about the church's apostasy in harboring and protecting sexual predators should write or call Pastor Tom Diamond at Calvary Missionary Baptist Church (386-328-4420), 322 N. 10th Street in Palatka, FL, and register your concern and protest.

God help any woman with whom DG comes in contact. My prayers and support are for all of DG's victims. May the Lord continue to be their strength and courage.

Anonymous said...

yes keep reading and asking ????????????SOMEONE WHO ALSO IS READING MIGHT GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERS

Anonymous said...

yes to mert is merceda key

Anonymous said...

What did merceda key do?

Anonymous said...

D.G. PUTS PEOPLE IN PLACES THAT BENEFITS HIM.SHE WAS OVER THE AREAS WHERE MONEY WAS MADE

Anonymous said...

And so what she was over areas where money was made? Was there a problem?

Anonymous said...

There is not going to be a trial! DG will cop a plea in the next few weeks!

Anonymous said...

Trial or plea if the words guilty coems out, praise God. NOw what's sad that when he is found or admit to guilt the churches will still want him to preach. On channel 4 last night they aired about the paternity suit. What is going on with people's minds today!Believers??? Good grief!!! If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.

Anonymous said...

Merceda Key was fired from Shiloh after DG was kicked out. She was just as crooked as DG. He did give her that certain position. Is it because she had something on him. She did have a teenage daughter. Hummm it makes you wonder. And she did some awful things concerning the late Mrs. Ollie Newton.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, concerning Mert Key, need I say more. There are others that I know about who were in cahoots with DG.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:07 am said, "If God doesn't judge America, He'll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah."

AMEN to that! Had this conversation with my sister yesterday. We reminded ourselves there is still hope:

"If My people which are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray..." (i.e., repent)

Perhaps the real believers here can spare our country. One would think the political and economical climate alone in the last few weeks would cause all true believers to get down on their knees. We are an arrogant people led by arrogance. We need to get back to God.

The church especially needs to clean up its act! Ezekiel 8,9 tell of God's attitude toward an immoral religious system! God is sick by what He sees going on. He did not spare His "chosen" for their disobedience; do church leaders today with their "cheap grace" doctrine really believe the Lord will spare them? God is not mocked.

Yet there is hope, "If My people."

Anonymous said...

What is the link to the news story channel 4 did?

Anonymous said...

October 18, 2008 11:53 AM

I was just writing today, with the financial crisis, RFIDs, free trading, wars, New World Order, Federal Reserve and World bank is setting us up for Rev 13:16.
There is something much more than the crisis is going on behind the scene and we all need to wake up.

Keep your eyes on the LORD. Time is out for playing church. Time for self examination and make sure our election is sure.

God will not be mock!!

dfsa

Anonymous said...

half of shiloh knew kesha emerson baby way his last year

Anonymous said...

who else was in cahoos with D.G.

Anonymous said...

yall might as well tell everything. everybody needs to know. you might help or save somebody

Anonymous said...

So how old is baby and does she still attend Shiloh? He must have paid her up until recently causing her to file. Wonder if deacons knew?

Anonymous said...

no he can not pay her any more since he resigned at shiloh. i do not think all the deacons knew

Anonymous said...

How can he still afford his lifestyle? He must be doing something that pays well. He always seems it make it. Is he still living in Queens Harbour? Now he might have child support to pay.
It is hard to believe that Diamond is thinking about giving him the Pastor job.

Anonymous said...

Darrell stole millions off the backs of God's people at Shiloh.He was known to have accrued several millions over his tenure at there.

Tiffany Thigpen Croft said...

As to the money DG accrued from Shiloh, I have been told this many times over by Deacons and others from "inside" Shiloh. I know that each church he has been at, he has lived well. I do not doubt that he set aside money for himself and others. I am sure even now his attorney is unaware of how much money he may have tucked away somewhere. He is hoping to get away with all of this and I am quite sure he is not putting all of his money into his defense. He hopes to start over and will need money for that. He is pretty smart, and very deceitful.

As to the trial and any upcoming dates - it is not known for sure right now. The dates get changed and passed on. Who knows, he may not face trial if he decides to plea out. It is all wait and see right now. Please keep sharing information. It is amazing how much is still leaking out and also how much many of you know and are still not telling. It will come out one way or another, might as well be you.
Do you know of any other young girls that you think should be contacted about DG? Or any other women that could file a paternity suit? You can email this information privately thefamilycircus8@gmail.com or call Julie Schlax at the State Attorneys office.

Thank you for your help. Thank you for your support, it's not over yet. His sins are finding him out. I have heard no apologies yet and certainly have been told that he is still arrogant about it all. He believed you would all keep hiding his secrets (he counted on that) and he felt you would all turn a blind eye to his misdeeds. He has been shown otherwise. God will not be mocked.

dfsa said...

Tiffany, the link for this case does not come up, due to we need a user name and password. Can someone provide this information if it is not a child.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Do you all want the rest of the players in the D.G. coruption.money,sex and lies

Anonymous said...

Don't forget he loves POWER

Anonymous said...

Who are the rest of the players?

Tiffany Thigpen Croft said...

The goal here is not to slander people, to gossip or to ruin people's lives. Quite the opposite - we want to stop people in the leadership position to stop ruining people's lives. They are called to lead and guide us to the Savior, not to be a stumbling block. And certainly not to destroy young girls, women and families. Not to turn a blind eye to the corrupt acts of a man in the position of leadership (Pastor or otherwise) especially taking place in the house of God. We need to be proactive in protecting our people and our church.
To any of you that have helped cover this stuff up and kept it a secret - it is time to stand up and clean up. Thank you to those of you (Deacons) who have already come forward. God can turn this thing around, sin is forgiven once you have repented. God can still use you to make things right.

Latonya W said...

Tiffany,
Although you say that your goal for this blog is not to slander people. However, you allow people to anonymously post things about others that are not supported by any facts whatsoever. Shame on you!!!

Anonymous said...

I am very appreciative that Tiffany has taken the initiative to keep this story alive, and informed the world of the events that have taken place at Shiloh and other churches at the hands of DG. The one to be shamed is DG.

I'm sure if there is an offensive comment, you can inform Tiffany and she will be happy to take care of it.

- Unknown said...

Listen, as someone said before, the goal is not to slander, but to pray. I honestly know that this young lady is going through more than enough! Having to deal with the issue of being caught up with this man, and being taken advantage of while in a vulnerable stage. Is very critical!!

Yes, I understand it takes two to tangle and she's just as guilty as he is. But, to be taken advantage of while you are down is something totally different.

I truly feel that her name should not have been released, because there is an innocent child involved. And when it's all said and done the child is the one who's going to have to endure and suffer throughout all of this crap.

Please, I ask that you please keep her and her family in prayer as they journey through this difficult time.

As well as pray that God deals with him, in a way that he (God) see's fit.

-A sister of someone misunderstood!

Anonymous said...

now you have named mert who is the rest of D.G. 's helpers

Anonymous said...

To "A sister...": You are quite right. This young lady has been through more than enough.

Was/Is it her fault in any way? I do not think so. Vulnerability to being victimized does not make her or anyone else "guilty" of what DG did. DG was in a much more powerful position as a man of the cloth who should have known better. He was a pastor who acted as a sexual predator. The victims were not willing participants, no matter how they may feel about it. DG abused his position of power as a member of the clergy.

We need to pray for the victims, and to keep them out of the public eye. They need to be protected, not exploited.

Sharon Rose

- Unknown said...

Thanks Sharon Rose, I grately appericate your support. Please keep her in prayer, as well as the other many victims, I believe that are out there! Once again thank for your support and I pray that God has his way, however he see's fit. God Bless

-Sister of someone misunderstond!!!

Anonymous said...

To "A Sister...": You're welcome. Please know that there are those across this country who are praying for the many victims, and there are those who want to help, like Diana Garland who is doing a research project, as you probably already know. Each of the victims deserves our understanding, respect, and support as they make sense out of what happened. The "secondary victims" (like family members) need support, too. You did the right thing to stand up for your sister. She needs you.

I'd like to make a correction to something I said in my last comment. I said DG was a pastor who acted as a sexual predator. I believe I got that backwards. It's probable he was the latter who used the pastorate to hurt others. He thought he could get away with it. My prayer is that he will not get away with it as his case is moving through the court system.

My continued prayers are with this case, and for all involved. Keep strong, keep courageous. God is with those who seek justice and righteousness.

Sharon Rose

Anonymous said...

Regardless of the outcome of the trial, it would appear there are many victims in this case who are undoubtedly hurting. As well, each of the victims have family members who are undoubtedly shaken by what happened to their loved one.

Have the deacons or Pastor Charles at Shiloh, or anyone in Jacksonville, thought about how best to minister to the victims? This kind of sin/evil causes tremendous pain, and can shake even the most solid of faiths. Besides the spiritual harm that was done, there is emotional and psychological harm from sexual abuse.

Pastor Rod has offered his help to victims. Are there others? Has the SA thought about how to help the victims? Is there a community agency that has offered counseling (group or individual) to the victims? What help is available to the victims, and their families?

Anonymous said...

shiloh would be better if they had cleaned house.

Anonymous said...

I think that shiloh has somewhat cleaned house. Some have come forward and it seems as though the new pastor ain't playing the radio. Of course we'll have to wait and see.

Anonymous said...

I am just wondering how could Calvary Missionary Baptist Church and its Pastor even consider DG as his replacement? This is too strange.

Anonymous said...

have not cleaned house. few more need to go

Anonymous said...

You're right anon 8:03 pm. I haven't said anything but I have often wondered how Sabrena was able to stay there through all of that. If anybody knew about it, she had to have known about it being his secretary. Stuff happening mere feet away from her. How she kept herself from getting up and leaving that place I don't know. So what you have been there all your life. Some things ought to make you stand up and say 'Good-bye'.

You guys can have Shiloh. Doesn't matter to me who the new man is.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:47 - re comments about DG's secretary:

Speaking as a victim of clergy sexual abuse that happened at another time, in another place, by another clergy predator, but one who was the pastor-perpetrator's secretary--who sat just feet away from terrible things that happened to other women behind the pastor's closed door--who had terrible things happen to me behind that closed door while other staff members and elders stood in silence "knowing" something must be happening--I must say something on DG's secretary's behalf:

(1) clergy sexual predators are very cunning, and manipulative. I'm sure DG made his secretary take an oath of silence--after all, she was in a "privileged" position, and to spread "gossip" or talk about things she saw would be "unprofessional." (I've also been told this as a legal secretary, business manager, and school teacher--not just at the church I worked for.) If she said anything, she could have lost her job--because DG would have fired her for insubordination.

(2) clergy sexual predators are excellent at making witnesses "second guess" what they see. Even if she did see anything, DG would deny it, minimize it, etc. Clergy sexual predators deny, minimize, and blame the victims, making the witnesses feel stupid. The former associate pastor from the church where my abuse happened still has a hard time admitting what he saw--and that he did nothing about it.

(3) Clergy sexual predators have a way of "undermining" potential witnesses, just in case they decide to "tell" on them. In my case, the pastor perpetrator had painted me (his secretary) as an untrustworthy person who he "kept around" as his secretary out of the "goodness of his heart." He led the elders of the church to believe (among other things) that I was his "charity case"--and to please have patience with me--despite the fact I was very professional in my conduct, my loyalty to the church (and the Lord) and was an excellent administrative secretary with unsurpassed skills! He wanted to MAKE SURE that if I said anything to anyone, NO ONE would believe me.
Of course, I was in the dark as to what he was telling others behind my back. I didn't know until much, much later when some good people in the church finally told me.

(4) It is very COMMON for clergy sexual predators to undermine the credibility of potential witnesses. DG's secretary was just one among many, many potential witnesses.

Your comment "...so what you have been there all your life..." clues me that you don't have a clue as to what she must have gone through.

I understand how people are trying to find answers. But believe me, DG's secretary had nothing to do with what he was doing behind closed doors. In a great sense, if she wasn't a victim of the sexual abuse herself, she was still being victimized by DG. My heart and prayers are with her.

Sharon Rose

Aj.Jordan said...

I agree with sharon concerning sebrina, it must had been really hard on her emotionally and spiritually as well, dealing with the formal pastor inappropriate behavior.We must continue to pray for her as well as the membership of shiloh.Especially for the new pastor,I believe he has an up hill battle on his hands,because some of that leadership that help protect the formal pastor is still in place.I think they need to repent and step aside for the new harvest that God has for shiloh.Shiloh is a Good church and has Good God fearing people there.God(Jesus)want and will continue to bless the mircle on beaver st.

Love you all family.
Lets remember what the Lord says:

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.


1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

11:47 pm said...

You know maybe that's why things like this continue to go on because people over-sympathize with others not saying anything about it. Even if I were the one letting error happen; RIGHT is right all day long.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:19 pm - How RIGHT you are that right is right!

However, if you are being told--by a very powerful man who represents GOD Himself--that wrong is right, it's hard to stand up to that, especially if you have your livelihood at stake. It's easy to tell the team how they should have played the game after the game is lost, especially when you sit on the sidelines.

Let's be thankful for the women and teens who DID come forward, who took tremendous courage to do so--especially Tiffany who stepped up to the plate when she didn't have to.

Let's thank God for those deacons who have gone to the SA with the information they have.

And let's thank God that the SA has taken this case seriously.

And hopefully, what happened at Shiloh will be studied so that other churches can learn from what happened to set policies in place that will prevent those in positions of church leadership from hurting and taking advantage of others.

Anonymous said...

lets also pray for those who are still there working to. some of them are good people and was not aware of what was realy going on behind some of those 2 and 3 offices.yes Shiloh is a better church now that the leadership has changed. I'am not a member but after what happen today i might join now.

Anonymous said...

I'am realy glad to hear this because Shiloh is agood church under the new leadership the church is MOVING in the right direction FORWARD

Anonymous said...

I truly pray that Shiloh prospers under the new pastor and that God will be the ultimate guide in every endeavor the church undertakes.

If there are those who still remain and support Gilyard, may God convict to have Him reveal how harmful Gilyard was to the church, community and world as a whole.

God bless.

Anonymous said...

i feel sorry for his wife how could he do that to her. i pray that he get whats due to him

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:38pm:

I do feel sorry for Tenise or any wife that has to go through something like this, but she was told by her parents all about this guy before she married him. When your parents and people who love you the most come to you in love and tell you please don't go down this path, you must heed it! But by that time DG already had his hooks in her; Tenise was not a mature, experienced woman. She was very young, sheltered and naive and would have been no match for someone like DG. If you take most 25 yo old women and put them with a mature, worldly, successful man who promises you the world, you don't have to work and can have practically anything you want, most of those women will listen to that man over their momma and daddy! Unfortunately it has cost her this painful lesson.

Where i don't feel sorry for her is that she does have a choice and despite everything she has decided to stay!

Anonymous said...

This is a man that covered for Paige Patterson and served under Darrell Gilyard. He discredited the women and is very guilty of a cover up. His name is Darrell Deboard.

http://esbcmh.com/336674.ihtml

Anonymous said...

I happen to know H.B. Charles, Jr. I know that he has more character than DG, and if the women think that they are going to be with H.B.; I can tell you that they are going to be very disappointed!

How could DG sleep with some of the Deacons wives? Were these women young? Based on what I've seen, many of these women are older and mature, and how could they allow a short, shrimp of a man to seduce them into making a mockery of the Ministry?

If I were the husband of any of these women, I would immediately divorce them! What a sham and what a pity!

As for the Secretary, is it even remotely possible that DG had some "dirt" on her too? Could it be that the both of them had dirt on each other?

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:34 pm - Those of us who understand clergy sexual abuse can see how such a "short, shrimp of a man" could do the things DG apparently did.

As far as if you were the husband of one of these women...

If you loved your wife, you would stand by her and support her. My prayer is that the husbands of all of the victims in this case will understand that their wives were victimized, and pledge to support their wives. That would be the loving thing to do.

Anonymous said...

YEAH RIGHT

Anonymous said...

We want the rest of the helpers yall put mert out there she was not the only one.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the dirt he had on the secretary is that him and her had already been together. Wonder if Paul ever asked that question and got a true answer.

Anonymous said...

come on now who are the other players

Anonymous said...

Is this a witch hunt? Would you parade everyone involved with DG in public? Take heed lest you also fall judgment.

Wouldn't our Lord be more pleased if we pray for those involved than exploit them? They've been through enough. We need to extend grace and peace, and help their spiritual healing.

Anonymous said...

GILYARD, DARRELL DEFENDANT XXXX-XXX-XX-XXX-X XXXXX
SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH OF JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, INC., DEFENDANT BUSINESS XXXX-XXX-XX-XXX-X XXXXX
EMERSON, KESHA PLAINTIFF FEMALE XXXX-XXX-XX-XXX-X XXXXX


Case Fee(s)
Effective Date Description Amount Paid Balance In Collections
10/28/2008 CIR/GENERALCIVIL $321.00 $321.00 $0.00

Court Event(s)
No Court Events

Docket(s)
Image Effective Date Count Description
10/28/2008 NEGLIGENCE CASE - NOT AUTO CONNECTED
10/28/2008 CASE FEES PAID: $321.00 ON RECEIPT NUMBER 492670
10/28/2008 COVER SHEET
10/28/2008 COMPLAINT, SUMMONS ISSUED 2
10/28/2008 REQUEST FOR JURY TRIAL

Anonymous said...

Wow. That looks like a NEW LAWSUIT!
Is that another one of his baby's mothers? This guy has to be one cool, slick talking, ear kissing, playa!
When Darrell said he was BLESSED, maybe we should believe him! Wink Wink! ROTFLMBO! That's rolling on the floor laughing my butt off!

Anonymous said...

Whoever this anonymous person is posting the case information, I ask you this. If it were you, would you want your business blasted like this? All I can say is that I sure hope your house has no glass whatsoever and that your closet has nary a bone.

This woman, her family and support system, and any of his other victims should be prayed for, not preyed upon.

Another sister of one misunderstood.

Anonymous said...

I am really trying to understand all of this. I have a tape from Pastor Jerry Fawell with six of Daryl Gilyard's messages. It is from about 1997. I got it out to show my daughter and we enjoyed the messages. I came on line to do a search and see if he had more ministry tools. I found all this stuff about him. How can someone prach so eloquently and be so ugly? Is this the false teacher Timothy preached about? Is his testimony true about living under a bridge and communing with God? Should I throw the whole tape away? Please help me understand all of this. I sincerely want to know.

Anonymous said...

sorry about that, not Timothy. Peter talks about false teachers leading peole into sin. Maybe the difference is this man is a gifted speaker. But, gifting and character are two different things. Is that the explanation?

Anonymous said...

First, if the Deacons wives slept with this man, they are not victims! Some of these women apparently are in their mid to late 40's and a few in their 50's.

I'm sorry, I'm not buying that at all. these are women who wanted a piece of DG pure and simple!

While DG did speak well, let's be clear about one thing that many Shiloh people did or did not know: He preached DR. Jerry Vines sermons!

That is a fact of life. DG did not do any serious study, he simply stole Vines sermons and repackaged them for Shiloh.

H.B. is a much better preacher because he is a serious student of The Word! While I believe in forgiveness, I'm not sure if my relationship with my spouse could be the same if I learned they slept with the likes of DG!

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:40 am - I'm sorry but I have to say something here. It is because of the disparity of power between DG, a member of the clergy, and any lay person in the congregation that makes anyone DG had sexual encounters with a victim. It does not matter if the woman (or child or anyone else) agreed to the encounter or not. Age doesn't decide if a victim is a victim or not. The difference in power is what makes these cases of sexual abuse, and what makes all of the victims just that--victims.

Most employers have in place sexual harrassment policies. Apparently, the church doesn't have to because it is technically legal for those in power to sexually abuse those not in power.

You would think that all churches have morals, and that all church leaders would desire to please the Lord and look after the flock. The Bible madates that. But, unfortunately, as is the case in too many churches, too many church leaders are taking advantage of their privilege. The result is many destroyed lives.

Are the lay women "willing participants"? Even if they were, it was DG's fiduciary duty to make sure he kept them pure.

That is not to say the victims will forever remain victims. With help and support, they will survive, and come out stronger.

Sharon Rose

Anonymous said...

I am not anon 1:40 am

You are nothing but stedfast Sharon but I am not so dogmatic.

Anonymous said...

That is not to say DG did not abuse his position. Without question he did. And for that reason he is guilty and should be prosecuted for it and not the women. But the women (adult) cleared as of all fault for their part-- I don't know...

About the best they can do is ask for forgiveness.

Anonymous said...

how can shiloh ever move on if everyone still connects gilyard to the church he is no longer a part of the church no church or person is perfect i am not supporting anything he did but some of these issues are to dealt with privately he does have a wife that is not deserving of any of this and as far as the new pastor he is not at all connected to these past issues and should not be mentioned in such a manner but the grown women who were more than happy to sleep with him should get no pity or sorrow they knew exactly what they were doing in every church there is someone sitting on the pew willing to sleep with a pastor and they need to take responsiblity for there own actions shiloh is growing and trying to focus on god

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:05 pm - At least you are honest enough to admit you don't know. Thank you for your honesty.

Those who work with victims of clergy sexual abuse do know. The women are not to blame for what happened. Nor should they be shamed.

As I said, even IF they were so brazen as to try to seduce their pastor, it was up to their pastor to set them on the right path and resist any temptation to use his power for selfish pleasure. From my understanding, there were more than a few victims here who were not trying to seduce their pastor. It is no different than if a professional psychologist took advantage of his patients.

The ones who should be asking for forgiveness are DG and the deacons. I believe one of the deacons said he was sorry he didn't do more to protect the women at Shiloh.

Sharon Rose

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:05 pm - Let me also add there are a few others who should be asking for forgiveness, namely Paige Patterson, Jerry Vines, and any other church leader who did not pull the plug on DG's ministry because of his deplorable behavior in the last 20 years.

May the Lord have mercy on those who blame the victims and let these wolves in sheep's clothing go.

Anonymous said...

I am not willing for wolves to be let go or disobedient sheep. Perhaps you don't know either, but are persuaded to your opinion for your own reasons. Who is an "expert" but someone with their opinion too.

Be blessed

RWilliams said...

Sharon Rose,

We are sympathetic and respectful of your background and knowledge in the area of CSA. However, you don't know anything about the history, leadership structure, or much else about the Shiloh Church and should not be passing judgment on who should be apologizing. That is just your opinion. This is not an attack on you or anyone concerning this issue but you are making blanket indictments on men, most of whom had no knowledge about this sorry mess and that is wrong, both as a Christian or as a victim.

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:18 - Thank you for your respect. I fear you may have misunderstood my intent. I certainly meant no disrespect to anyone at Shiloh.

I was answering Anon 10:05 who stated, "The best they [the victims] can do is ask for forgiveness." Such a statement demands a response. Victims do not need to apologize for being victimized. One who is robbed doesn't need to apologize for being robbed.

There seems to be a group of individuals, who for whatever reason or intent, are bent on blaming victims of clergy sexual abuse simply because the victims were over the age of 18.

While I understand it is difficult for some to understand or accept that a woman over the age of 18 can be seduced by a clergy perpetrator, I have to state the truth. It happens. Some in the clergy use their power and authority as pastors to prey upon adult women in the church. From what I understand, some preying pastors do it because the woman is over the age of 18--that way all they have to do is say it was consentual or that the woman seduced him. They have the "perfect alibi." And because of his power and authority as a member of the clergy, he is more likely to be believed.

I have heard from, and met, many victims of clergy sexual abuse for quite a while. There is no question in my mind that all of the women were victimized by unscrupulous men who ruthlessly used their power and position to do harm to the women.

That the victims are victims is not just my opinion. On this blogsite, one of Shiloh's own deacons confessed he believed DG victimized women at Shiloh.

Jesus Christ shows compassion to victims. He does not pass judgment on them. As his believers, we should do the same.

Clergy sexual abuse is a complicated issue. While the laws protect children, they do not protect women from preying pastors who have strayed from their calling. Women--even good god-fearing women--get caught in the trap.

Either the church needs to do more to protect women from predators in the pulpit, or the laws need to change to make it illegal for a professional minister to harm anyone in the church. That is not just my opinion.

It amazes me how quickly Christians blame the victim, rather than support her through what is probably the most difficult time of her life. Men of God ought not behave the way clergy perpetrators behave. These women need care and concern, not exploitation and scorn.

Sharon Rose

rwilliams said...

Sharon Rose

Thank you for your response. If I misunderstood your earlier response you have my most sincere apology. I believe that sexual exploitation of any kind, and more specifically Clergy Sexual Abuse is deplorable. In many ways Shiloh Church has also been victimized by a "wolf" posing as a shepherd while taking advantage of the flock. In addition to the lack of understanding of the issue of CSA most people also don't understand the moral authority a pastor is given by his congregation, or the difficulty of accusing him with any kind of misconduct. The flock is far more likely to believe the pastor than the accuser/victim, or anyone who advocates on the part of the accuser/victim (been there).

Anonymous said...

I do not agree with Ms. Emerson including Shiloh church in her paternity suit against DG. The church was not there or involved with her coming to his office or allowing him to her apartment. This went on a good while before she got pregnant; she made a choice to sleep with him(knowing he was married), she chose to have the baby(knowing the situation), continued to have a relationship with him after the baby and accept support, and even after he resigned from Shiloh and talked about going to ATL to start over wanted to go with him(what did she think his wife was going to do?)

Now as far as I know Ms.Emerson was of the age of consent and of a sound mind. I understand she was grieving but she was not mentally incapacitated. As soon as things started to get funny at these counseling sessions, she had the opportunity and right to refuse to go.

DG should be held repsonsible for the support of his child, but the church is not responsible for a grown woman's decision to have sex with a married man and the child that results. We have to be careful here, because this could open a Pandora's Box at a lot of churches!

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:46 - Your comments reflect your lack of understanding of clergy sexual abuse. More than likely there was a grooming period in which the victim was groomed for sex. Clergy abusers use their power over their victims to persuade them to do things and agree to things they may or may not otherwise agree to. And if the woman desired it or wanted it or however else you want to call it--it was the pastor's duty and responsibility to resist the temptation for the sake of Christ, the Church, his own family, and the woman.

Should a church be responsible for the misconduct of its pastor? Is a psychologist in a psychology practice responsible for having sexual relations with a patient?

Who hired the pastor? Shouldn't the church be responsible for a pastor who has sexual relations with a member of the laity--especially when the church leadership knew (at least according to one of the deacons)?

The church should be responsible for calling a man who had a "reputation" to its pulpit. Perhaps the committee who recommended DG wasn't made aware of his reputation before they recommended him, but certainly as time went on, the deacons became aware of his misconduct and did nothing about it.

It's out of the church's hands now. The courts will handle the case.

Does this have ramifications for other churches? I hope so. Churches need to clean up their act.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe you can release her from ALL responsibility. She CONSENTED!! Are you telling me she was rendered totally incapable of saying NO! Absolutely not! She could have but for whatever the reasons were, she chose not to. Long before she got pregnant, she had to have noticed something wasn't right about the situation and she could have spoke out then and stopped counseling! Just like to can choose another doctor, therapist, psychologist, etc. if you feel that person is not meeting your needs or violating you.

We all have a choices and she didn't make the right ones!

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:37 - If you understood the phases of sexual abuse, you would understand fully that she is NOT responsible for the relationship.

As far as choices go, even if it was her choice to sleep with him, it was his DUTY to supercede her choice with a better choice, i.e., end any improper relationship.

She was relying on her pastor to do the right thing whether or not she was capable of doing the right thing herself. In other words, even if she, an out-and-out sinner (and I'm not saying she was), but even IF she were, then it was HIS duty to end the improper relationship, not foster it. As her pastor, he was in charge because he had the authority to be in charge.

Besides all of that, because of the way sex offenders "groom" their victims, she may have been groomed by him to consent to his advances.

She is not responsible. He is.

Anonymous said...

Ultimately, DG is WRONG and his actions deplorable. But i just can't say that she had absolutely no responsibility for her own actions. Hypothetical situation: If he had such control of her and she was rendered incapable of making decisions and he convinced her to rob a bank with a gun, i know a court of law would not say she is absolutely not responsible because this man made you do it. They will say you are a consenting adult that made the choice to pick up that gun and go into that bank and rob it. Why didn't you call the police, etc. She would be sentenced as an adult for that with the appropriate sentence.

People need to start realizing this; your pastor is not the ultimate authority over you, GOD is! If ANYTHING goes against GOD and His word, it is wrong and you are to detour from it, even if it comes from your pastor's mouth! That is why you have to know the Word and stand on the principles of God and no man!

Anonymous said...

Ultimately, DG is WRONG and his actions deplorable. But i just can't say that she had absolutely no responsibility for her own actions. Hypothetical situation: If he had such control of her and she was rendered incapable of making decisions and he convinced her to rob a bank with a gun, i know a court of law would not say she is absolutely not responsible because this man made you do it. They will say you are a consenting adult that made the choice to pick up that gun and go into that bank and rob it. Why didn't you call the police, etc. She would be sentenced as an adult for that with the appropriate sentence.

People need to start realizing this; your pastor is not the ultimate authority over you, GOD is! If ANYTHING goes against GOD and His word, it is wrong and you are to detour from it, even if it comes from your pastor's mouth! That is why you have to know the Word and stand on the principles of God and no man!

Anonymous said...

11/18/2008 JUDGE WEATHERBY, MICHAEL R.

11/18/2008 ASST. STATE ATTY. SCHLAX, JULIE A.

11/18/2008 ATTY. FOR DEF. H. COXE

11/18/2008 DEFENDANT – DARRELL GILYARD NOT PRESENT

11/18/2008 CASE DISPOSITION SCHEDULED



12/05/2008 DISPOSITION 09:00A - 5 330 E BAY ST (CIRCUIT)


Disposition (adj.): The final settlement of a matter. In a criminal procedure, disposition is the final settlement of a criminal case.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:21 am - read the story of Patti Hearst, the heiress who was kidnapped by the SLA in the 1970's. Yes, the courts made her pay for her "choice" to rob a bank (among other things). But she was a victim, nonetheless. No one today blames her for what happened to her. Many today believe it was wrong to incarcerate her or even put her on trial. We now realize how victimized she was.

No one should hold any victim of clergy sexual abuse accountable for what has happened. It's abuse. The victim is a victim, not a participant.

I know of one victim who said she was so "enamored" (brainwashed is what she meant) by the pastor predator who hurt her, that she said she would have murdered for him. Scary, but true.

Need more convincing? Read: (1)Victim to Survivor--Women Recovering from Clergy Sexual Abuse, (2) The Sexual Abuse of Women by Members of the Clergy, (3) Victim to Survivor. These are three books you can easily get at Amazon dot com.

Anonymous said...

Any word on the "final settlement"?

Anonymous said...

I know the story of Patty Hearst and it proves my point. Just because she was a victim did not remove her responsibility in the matter and she had to do the time. People may not blame her today, partially because she has already paid her debt to society. Maybe, just maybe, the defense attorney for Shiloh may be able to persuade a jury of that as well. Ms. Emerson knew he was married and yet entered into, continued the relationship depsite that. Agreed to a secretive, clandestine association, agreed to sex(that was her choice), etc,etc.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:55 - You sound as if you were in the room if or when she agreed to everything. Clergy sexual abuse is abuse, not consent.

A member of the clergy has no biblical right whatsoever to allow a woman to lead him astray. If you say he is "just human" then he should not be in the ministry. Since when do men who are "just human" sleep with many women, and send leud textmessages to teens? Is that what you define as "just human"? It sounds more like what a debase pervert would do.

Perhaps you may argue that the apostle Paul didn't really mean it when he laid out the "above reproach" qualifications for church leaders in his writings to Timothy and Titus. Does Paul excuse such shameful and disgraceful behavior as "just human"? Are you saying Paul teaches it is okay for pastors to behave in such an ungodly manner?

Should women go after a pastor? Absolutely not! But a woman who goes after a pastor is obviously very vulnerable, and needs help. It is unthinkable that a pastor would take advantage of such a woman!

If a pastor were really human, he would send her out of his office (or room or car or whereever else they might have been), and at least seek to get her help from a professional counselor. To take advantage of a woman from his congregation is absolutely wrong. It betrays not only the woman, but the church as well.

Anonymous said...

I don't know if any of you have heard about the situation in Denver, Colorado, between a prominent pastor and his administrative assistant.

The woman is making the claim that on several occasions, the pastor "raped" her! Yes, raped her. However, interestingly, she continued to work for the pastor because, according to her words, "he said he was sorry."

When she went to the authorities, they even wired her, heard him admit his impropriety, and yet the DA would not file charges!

They said, it was because the Pastor said it was consensual sex, and the fact that the woman continued to work implied the Pastor was telling the truth.

Now, that is a darn shame! It is these types of things that gives the church and the ministry a bad name. In fact, much like DG's situation, it is said that "many" of the Elder leadership of the church warned the woman when she first started working there, which implies that they have always known that they have a crook and scoundrel for a pastor! What a darn shame.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:40pm:

Unless Ms. Emerson is saying that DG raped her(which she is not), then it was consenual. She allowed it again and again until she got pregnant and then again and again afterwards. It doesn't sound like he was forcing her.

The Bible says, We ALL are led astray, even pastors. I am not saying DG is not wrong, I know him personally and how any woman can't or couldn't figure out that he is not what he claims, doesn't practice what he preaches, and that there is a lot "not right" with him is beyond me. It's all over him, and if they didn't see it, it is because they didn't want to because they were caught up in the fantasy!

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:40pm:

Unless Ms. Emerson is saying that DG raped her(which she is not), then it was consenual. She allowed it again and again until she got pregnant and then again and again afterwards. It doesn't sound like he was forcing her.

The Bible says, We ALL are led astray, even pastors. I am not saying DG is not wrong, I know him personally and how any woman can't or couldn't figure out that he is not what he claims, doesn't practice what he preaches, and that there is a lot "not right" with him is beyond me. It's all over him, and if they didn't see it, it is because they didn't want to because they were caught up in the fantasy!

Anonymous said...

shiloh is moving on do yall have a life let the courts do there jobs and if yall are save keep going to hear the word and do what JESUS would do

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:28 - You said, "...how any woman can't or couldn't figure out that he is not what he claims, doesn't practice what he preaches, and that there is a lot 'not right' with him is beyond me."

Your comment speaks clearly to your ignorance of clergy sexual abuse. If you understood how sex offenders operate, you would be able to "figure it out."

The real question is, how is it that the CHURCH LEADERS couldn't "figure out that he is not what he claims, doesn't practice what he preaches, and that there is a lot 'not right' with him"?

It is a church's responsibility to put men "above reproach" in their pulpit; not sleezebag bums.

Don't place the blame on the women. There was a lot not right with Shiloh for hiring DG in the first place, and giving such an unworthy man tremendous power.

Anonymous said...

The church has a bad name because it does not take responsibility for erring pastors, and normally ostracizes the victims, rather than minister to them.

In her book, The Sexual Abuse of Women by Members of the Clergy, Karthryn Flynn reports that statistically as many as 37% of the clergy are involved in some form of sexual impropriety with members of their congregation. That's a hefty number which seems to be ignored by the church.

We need a higher authority to hold churches and pastors accountable in cases of clergy sexual abuse. Whether it's through the secular legal system, or a moral accountability task force that has jurisdiction, something must be done.

Jack Hayford has partnered with some other Christian leaders to form such an accountability team. It was his team that successfully ousted Todd Bentley from his ministry because he was allegedly having "an affair" with a member of his staff. We need accountability of churches, pastors, and parachurch organizations if the church wants its good name back.

This is very sad, indeed. We carry the "good news" of the gospel, yet many are not listening because of what's happening with erring pastors and church leaders. The church needs to stop trying to minimize or cover up. They need to start ministering to those affected by it.

Sharon Rose

Anonymous said...

Does the disposition mean complete settlement and the case will not go to trial? If true, it looks like a lot of people were right on this score.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:29 pm:

I guess for me, as a consenting adult, I have learned a few lessons in life. Nobody can mess up your life unless you allow it. I measure people by the Word of God, althought no one is perfect, when they are way in left field, RUN! I don't believe everything a pastor says, that's why we have the incorruptible Word of God. Getting involved with a married man only leads to heartache. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time. I don't need a man to give me self-esteem. You can't just tell me anything w/o backing it up with action. If you understand these things a man like DG will have far fewer victims.

If someone claims to be a pastor and man of God but he can't wait to get you into a compromising position, doesn't that tell you something? If a married pastor talks evey Sunday about how much he loves his wife but turns around and calls you with that same mouth, doesn't that tell you something? Ms. Emerson may have been vulnerable at the time, but how she missed all those signs just lacks common sense. This is an old game that continues to be played yet women keep getting burned by it.

Anonymous said...

Also, what happened to prayer! If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask, and I will give it to them liberally and not get upset with you about it. Did she call on the Lord for help, guidance, protection, revelation about him and this whole mess. God will never lead you to destruction!

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:58 & 7:04 - Your comments show you do not understand sexual abuse. There is a hidden component in cases of sexual abuse that make it abuse and not sex. The hidden component is a "grooming period" in which the assailant "grooms" the victim to "accept" what he is doing long before he has sex with her. It is a form of brainwashing.

That plus the difference in power between a pastor and a lay woman in the congregation makes this clergy sexual abuse. If you can't see that, then you are truly blind.

Anonymous said...

But, I do understand which is why I made the comments I did. I dated DG several years ago when he was my pastor(the position of power) and I was in the congregation. His aggressiveness and controlling personality became obvious within a week. He would spend hours asking me questions at late hours of the night(not normal). The first time I visited his home, his behavior was inappropriate; I wasn't flattered, but it made me wonder if he did that to everyone. Within weeks he tried to separate me from friends, by telling me I needed new ones(classic red flag)! His conversation wasn't that of a pastor; he seldom wanted to talk about spiritual things and he curses like a sailor. These are just a few things I noticed right off. It didn't make me want to jump head first into a relationship because he was in a position of power over me, it made me go to God! And boy did he show me more than I wanted to know! I was going thru a divorce at the time which could be considered a vulnerable position, but the last thing I needed was another nut in my life. I took my uneasiness and concerns to God who showed me that indeed this man was not who i thought and to get out of there. When you stand on The Word and challenge DG he won't hang around toolong. He was a single man who was not a priest or monk, but yet he always wants to come to your place or you come to his but very seldom public, classic playa move.

Just because someone is a pastor in a position of power doesn'tmean just become the doormat and ignore the obvious!

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:56 - What you described is the classic "grooming phase" of sexual abuse. When he realized he wasn't going to "win you over" (that is, that he wasn't going to be able to abuse you), he gave up, and let you go. He didn't want to risk moving on to the "abuse proper" phase, because he was probably afraid you would tell someone. He was not about romance; his goal was to abuse you. Thank God you saw through that. Perhaps it was because you were "dating" him, and not seeing him for "counseling."

If you were going through a divorce, then you were absolutely in a vulnerable position, whether you want to accept that or not.

PRAISE GOD you had the ability to look to the Lord and see through his schemes. You were spared more grief than you know.

These guys look for women who are "vulnerable." That includes women who are going through a divorce, breaking up with their boyfriends, women who are incest victims, or any other reason they can think of.

You were lucky. You escaped before he "got you." Count your blessings. But don't think it was that easy for anyone else who stood in your shoes.

Perhaps you can analyze how you were able to just simply walk away from him, and help other women learn from what you were able to do.

Anonymous said...

Well, it remains to be seen what happens at Calvery Baptist church in Palatka, Florida. I guess the chicken has come home to roost for a while................

Anonymous said...

Is DG preaching at First Timothy in Jacksonville or Calvery Baptist in Palatka ?

Anonymous said...

Dg is preaching at Calvary Baptist Church in Palatka, Florida. (386 328 4420.)

lynn said...

God is ALWAYS in CONTROL.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know (other than this blog) where you can get up to date info as to what is going on with the DG trial ? Or is it even considered a trial now since there has been no real court time spent by him ?

Anonymous said...

Is the pastor still preaching at Calvary Baptist Church in Palatka, Florida? Is he leaving and they are going to put DG in his place? What are they thinking.

Anonymous said...

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearl before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rein you

- Unknown said...

This is in response to Nov 17@12:46 How could you? Wait...before I go any further, thanks Nov.18@10:46p!!!. Now, how could you? first of all you speak so boldly as if you were there in the mist of the act with them. You don't know what transpired, none of us are perfect, but you know what? they (the church) new this man had a problem!

He has the track record to prove it! His past is not just catching up with him, people choose to sweep it under the rug and ACT as if nothing was wrong. I'm not saying that the blame is all on him. Yes, it does take two to tangle. However, if she wasn't going for counseling, maybe none of this would not have taken place!!! He took advantage of a situation and ran with it.

Look at his track record, this isn't the first or third time he has done this. This crap has been going on with him for a long time. Do homework, pull up the old articles from the 80's where-in he has been kicked out of different churches, and all these other women coming forward, stating his inappropriate conduct towards them. As a matter of fact you don't even have to dig, it's right in your face. Just look what he did to or with these young girls, and they were well underage! Or would you say, they were of sound mind also? This could have been me, you or anyone else. Oh yes, and what about the other women whom this has happened to, who are to embarrassed or hurt to come forward. So, please watch your mouth before you cast a stone!! no one is perfect and how would you feel if you were on public blast? Better yet, instead of being negative pray for this lady, better yet, have respect for the child who's going to catch the tail end of all this CRAP....................

-A Sister to Someone Misunderstood!

Anonymous said...

Anon Nov.26 @7:26p:

I am not casting stones but stating a different point of view. I don't understand women who sya this man violated me so much, yet they keep going back again and again and again for the same treatment. If I felt so abused and violated by someone I wouldn't want to have anything to do with them! Many of us have made mistakes, but if we are honest, we can say afterwards, I knew something wasn't right or i knew it didn't look right but for whatever reasons we allow it. No one can use you or abuse you unless you allow them to!

The fact that he was married should have been reason enough to stay away from his advances and certainly reason enough to not get pregnant and have a baby. Married men seldom leaves their wives to get with someone else, so you ultimately get left holding the baggage. Did she not confide in anyone during this time that could have steered her in the right direction? I know DG well and it has nothing to do with his position or being in authority, it has to do with CHARACTER and this man has none! I could have been in that same situation but I measured him according to the Word of God and he didn't line up with it at all so I got myself out of there!

Anonymous said...

To A Sister of Someone Misunderstood - You are right. Those who would criticize or blame the women involved do not understand clergy sexual abuse, and their ignorance is speaking very loudly.

Clergy sexual abuse is more about abuse than it is about sex. Abuse involves holding the victim "hostage"--whether that be physically, mentally, psychologically, or however else. It is abuse.

How unfortunate for all involved, and especially an innocent child. We need to be praying for the child here.

As far as including Shiloh in a lawsuit, it seems reasonable that if Shiloh hired a man who had the track record DG did, then at least in my opinion, Shiloh should be held accountable. If a school district hired a teacher who had such a record, then the school district would be responsible as well as the teacher if anything happened to a student.

Anonymous said...

Some of these comments AMAZES me. Let's not forget there were grown men and women in the camps of Jim Jones!!!!!! Look what happened there!

I almost became a victim of DG's smooth operation however I nipped it in the bud right then and there by the GRACE and MERCY of God. My flesh needed the soothing talk he gave me but at the time I had a husband whom I loved very much at the time, but I ALMOST fell for it because it was an emotional need I needed at the time. We would spend hours on Instant Messenger at night and I would save those chat records and still have them as a reminder that the devil is soooo busy and if any of us are not careful we can get caught up. We would also talk on the phone some nights and his voice is so deep and heavy on the phone that he sounds like Barry White. No LIE! He is a SMOOTH operator. So NEVER say what you won't do until you've been placed in that position. If I ever return to Shiloh, it would be difficult but I may just return.

Pray for him and his wife as well as his victims and their families. There are so many that have not come forward due to shame but pray for them as well.

DG’s next court date for a solution to this tragedy will be on Dec 5th according to the court records at coj.net

Almost USED

Anonymous said...

Anon 11/26/08 10:38pm

I agree with you.

rwilliams said...

A sister to someone misunderstood - re: your post on November 26, 2008 7:36 PM

Your reply does not even address what I said. I have no clue as to what point you're attempting to make re: my comment to Sis. Sharon Rose.

Roland Williams

Anonymous said...

Roland Williams - In looking back over the comments, I realized I didn't see your comment from Nov 17, at 12:46 pm. So, I'm finally responding to your comment...

How absolutely right you are on all accounts: (1) sexual exploitation of any kind--including clergy sexual abuse of any kind (involving child or adult victims) is deplorable; (2) the congregation where clergy sexual abuse happens is also victimized by the "wolf"; and (3) the flock is far more likely to believe the pastor-perpetrator ("wolf") for the reasons you stated: "...most people also don't understand the moral authority a pastor is given by his congregation, or the difficulty of accusing him with any kind of misconduct." If people accuse their pastor, then it means they made a mistake in calling the man to be their leader. That's hard on the congregation members and church leaders. I understand that.

Church leaders (including elders and deacons and pastoral search committees) need to be extra careful in who they call to lead the church. Learn what the signs and characteristics of the "wolf" are. Certainly, any previous inclination of wrongdoing is a clue that he may not be a genuine sheep.

Church leaders also need to take all allegations of sexual abuse against the pastor seriously. Check it out, sure. But don't discount the testimony of a victim, especially if there are other victims who can corroborate the allegations, just because the pastor denies the wrongdoing.

There are lots of things that need to change in regard to clergy sexual abuse. It will take time, but it needs to change.

Thanks for your insights.

Sharon Rose

- Unknown said...

I am so SORRY Roland Williams, I greatly apologize, I was trying to respond to Nov.18 @10:46, for the ridiculous comment they post regarding this "wolf" in sheep's clothing.

DG is a hot mess, he preys on the weak, takes advantage of them and uses it for his own selfish gratifications. And as for November 27, 2008 12:21 AM you are absolutely correct, because that is his character all the way!

However, Nov. 18@10:46 as I stated before you speak very boldly as if you know exactly what went on between the two. Sounds like someone trusted in you and now your trying to put them on blast for your own self reasons. Are you sure your not related to DG or a member of his camp? Nevertheless, I don't care about the who, what's and even the where's. None of this would not have taken place if this women would not have went for counseling and this "wolf" to take advantage of the entire situation and ran with it.

If he was a child molester and was hired by the school board and molested several student, would the school board not be responsible? Yes.... that's what I thought! Even when you look back, to the or a situation that jumped off previously with him and a young girl and a diary, what happened??? the church disposed of the diary instead of going to police.

So, don't say THEY should not be responsible, because a large vast of the "pack" new this man had a problem. Therefore, I'm stating again don't fix your mouth or cast a stone on anyone's situation. Non of us are perfect and yes it takes two to tangle, however, he has mastered this predator and prey game he plays, and you could only imagine how hell'a hard it may be, to be labeled as the whore or someone who messed with a pastor. When all and all this "wolf" took advantage of a situation during a terrible time in someone's life.

Please pray for this young lady and all the other victims and the child(ren) who have gotten caught up in this DG mess of a situation.

Thanks, Sharon Rose for all of your insight! and Sorry Roland Williams!

PS. Nov 18@10:46, I'm going to keep you uplifted in prayer, because all the mess God has covered you through and you've got the nerve to try to blast someone else. All I can say is may GOD continue to cover you!!!!!

-A sister to someone who is misunderstood!!!

Anonymous said...

Sister of One Misunderstood - You're welcome. This is a terrible mess that needs a lot of understanding. My heart and prayers are with you and your sister. Thank you for supporting her.

Nov 18, 10:46 - I will be praying that the Lord will open the eyes of your understanding. You're obviously concerned, otherwise you wouldn't be checking in on this blog.

I have put together a brochure that talks about the "phases" of clergy sexual abuse, and would be happy to send you a downloadable copy.

Sharon Rose

Anonymous said...

Good grief

And I'm not Nov 18 10:46

Anonymous said...

Since everyone wants to keep Nov.18, 10;46 lifted up in prayer i thought I would respond.

You are right when you say God has carried me thru and covered a lot of my mess. But i'm just keeping it real and asking that Ms.Emerson do the same. Everytime God brought me thru something, honestly, I knew I shouldn't have been in it from the get-go! Or, because I pray and trust God, He ALWAYS showed me what the true deal was BEFORE I hurt myself. Scripture tells us that there is no temptation common to man that he will not give you a way of escape from(paraphrasing). Did Ms. Emerson just lose all her good sense when she got involved in this. The first time he probably threw her across the desk, did she not think it awful coming from her married pastor? There were far too many signs about this that should have 'rang the alarm'. Unless Ms.Emerson was a young woman who had never dated a man and knew nothing of relationships, I can't buy that she was just so helpless and powerless in this situation. She could have always stopped going to these sessions.

I dated DG and some others like him and my spirit never was comfortable and accepting of this behavior. I stand firmly on the fact that when you go to GOD with everything he will always show you what you need to know. Those uncomfortale feelings, nervousness, female intuition, whatever you want to call it, is GOD's way of warning you but often we just don't listen! Did Ms. Emerson get none of that; did she think this was totally normal and every day routine?

I agree, Good Grief

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:28 - A victim is a victim.

You're right that it is not normal for a married pastor to behave in such a way as to take advantage of someone he is counseling. It was his responsbility to act like a pastor, regardless of what anyone else did.

It was also the responsibility of the pastoral search committee to place a godly man in the pulpit, and the responsibility of the deacon board to make sure the pastor was above reproach.

Thank God you were able to listen to your conscience. Perhaps it was because you were dating him, and not seeing him for counseling.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:19am,

I agree he should have acted like a pastor from the beginning and as I have said many times before DG is ultimately wrong for his behavior. But, just because someone is a pastor doesn't mean you just forget who you are, forget about God and His Word and just do whatever this 'MAN' says. He IS NOT GOD! He's like any other man to me, and if anyone asked me to go against or do something against my core, values, morals and beliefs, I would not regardless of who they were ESPECIALLY if i believed this person were violating me.

Whether you are dating or counseling doesn't make much of a difference, it's the same criteria. If he were counseling me and started that crap I would still feel the same way.

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:33 - there is a H-U-G-E difference between dating someone and going to them for counseling!

When you date someone, you are (or should be) on the same plane with them. There is no power differential. Even still, date rape still happens.

When you see someone for counseling, the counselor is in a much greater position of authority. Most states in this country agree that a counselor is a "care-giver" over counselees. The counselee is in a position of tremendous vulnerability, and, by the nature of the relationship, is put into a position where she/he has to trust the counselor. Therefore, counselors are to be trustworthy. Otherwise, there would be no credibility with the psychology professions including psychologists, psychiatrists, marriage-family therapists, etc.

When the counselor is a "man of the cloth" (member of the clergy), that just adds to the power differential. He not only is a "counselor," but one who "represents" God. If you believe a member of the clergy is "just human," then you don't understand the ministry, or the responsibility and duty placed upon the clergy by the church and society.

That is why the apostle Paul sternly warned that church leaders should be "above reproach," and not "just human."

In three states, it is against the law for a counselor to take advantange of a counselee. In those states, pastors who counsel members of their congregation are included as counselors. That makes clergy sexual abuse against adult women illegal in at least 3 states.

Anonymous said...

Although he does "represent" God he IS NOT GOD! If a pastor does not line up with the Word of God, acts against the Word and preaches against the Word then you respond accordingly. he may represent God but he is still subject to the same temptations, weaknesses and frailties as any other human being; being a pastor does not mean you are exempt from those. That is why pastors themselves need pastors!

If he "represents" GOD and you know the Character of God, then when you encounter the opposite of that it ought to send the bells of inside of you. I wouldn't care if he as my pastor told me to jump off the roof and said God told him that. You know that is against the Character of God and just plain crazy so why would you follow that nonsense!

Being in the presence of any person of authority, counselor or doctor does not or should not override your own conscience and good judgement.

Anonymous said...

Scripture tells us:

Acts 5:29- But Peter and the disciples replied, "We must obey God rather than any human authority."

Psalm 37:30- The godly offer good counsel; they teach right from wrong.They have made God's law their own, so they will never slip from his path.

This is why GOD commands us to study and learn scripture for ourselves, so that when we encounter these false teachers, pastors, etc. because you yourself are armed with the sword it will be a lot less likely to fall into these terrible situations. Nothing and no one overrides the Word of God! A husband is given authority over the wife and wives are to submit, but if a husband asks the wife to do someting outside of the will or word of God, a Christian wife is to obey God over her husband since He is the ultimate authority. God will protect you!

Anonymous said...

Anons 3:21 & 9:15 - I guess there's no arguing with you...you have made up your minds. I'm glad you are so righteous that you can't understand how anyone can be duped and brainwashed by a sociopath. What makes this so awful is that the sociopath in cases of clergy sexual abuse is the pastor.

And what about the church and its leaders who were duped? Are you saying the deacons are sinning because they were duped? After all, it was their responsibility to put him out of his position once they learned he wasn't so "godly." It was their job as deacons to protect women in the church. But they didn't do that. They let him stay on long after they knew he was doing bad things. Are they just as foolhearty as you imply?

May neither you or a loved one ever be duped by anyone. You might be humbled.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:12 pm,

I, myself, have been duped over the years that is why I have learned from those lessons.God has shown me thru these trials to not put my eye on man but to keep it focused on Him. God will NEVER, EVER, FAIL YOU! Man will fail you every time! So before I get all wrapped up into what someone is telling me, I measure it against the Word and Character of God and I can honestly say life has been so much sweeter and more peaceful because of it. I'm sorry you feel I'm not humbled but this really does work and it has worked in my life.

I can very easily understand how this can happen to children and it is a great tragedy, not only in the church but in society. It is awful!

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:11 - If you have ever been duped as an adult by anyone, then you have no business passing judgment on any of the victims here. Or were you only duped when you were under the age of 18, and then so mature that you "learned" from these "lessons" God gave you?

How holy you are!

I suppose you have no need to attend church or listen to any man in authority over you because you spend so much time studying God's word that you have the final word on what God says. After all, you keep your eye on God and not man.

And as far as pastors having any authority or power over anyone else...I guess that's just a myth. And since pastors are "just human" then we have no need for spiritual leaders, do we? I guess you're saying men (especially pastors) are--well--just impotent men! Why should we listen to them in the first place? God forbid that we would enter into temptation by trusting a pastor, and believing him when he expounds the Word of God.

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:20am, Did you not read the scripture, those aren't my words they are in the Bible. I imagine God put them there for a reason.

Of course I go to church and listen to my pastor but then I also come home and go over the scripture again myself. I also look at the lifestyle of the pastor; if he preaches one thing but does another that gives me pause. All I am saying is, DG preached the Word in the pulpit but once out of that pulpit his lifestyle and character did not match up whatsoever! That should make you question his integrity; how anyone can know the Word and teach the Word but not be changed by the Word, only God can explain that.

As I have said before, I know DG personally, and it doesn't take months for you to figure out where he is coming from, he doesn't waste that much time. You get a good sense of him within days, and it's nothing like that 1 Timothy man that God says we are to look for. I imagine that when God gave us that description he meant for us to use it and apply it.

Everyone human being has been lied to and deceived. We can't escape it but you can accept responsibility for yourself. When someone shows you who they are, believe them, the First time! You shouldn't have to be placed in a compromising position 50 times before it hits you that it ain't right. Children don't have the discernment and judgement that adults do; that is why we have an age of consent/responsibility. The Bible even speaks of that.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:40 - "All I am saying is, DG preached the Word in the pulpit but once out of that pulpit his lifestyle and character did not match up whatsoever!...
"As I have said before, I know DG personally, and it doesn't take months for you to figure out where he is coming from, he doesn't waste that much time. You get a good sense of him within days, and it's nothing like that 1 Timothy man that God says we are to look for."

Those are your words. Didn't you feel any obligation whatsoever to bring your worthy assessment of DG to the leadership at Shiloh?

You admit that you knew DG was not suitable for the ministry, yet you did nothing about it. SHAME on YOU.

Anonymous said...

I knew NOTHING about DG having anything to do with children/teenagers and taking advantage of them; NOTHING AT ALL!
I only knew of adult women, this case was the first that I had heard of along with everyone else. These adult women knew what they were getting into just like I did; for most it was the fantasy, the prestige, the attention or the money that he spends on you.

I, alone, would not have been able to make DG sit down or even for the leadership to fire him. That would have taken the majority of the church standing up to say they wanted him out and that wasn't going to happen. Even with this case with teenagers, there are STILL loyal DG supporters, if you can believe it! There stance would have been he's a single pastor(at that time) who is allowed to date, and I was a single woman, no harm done. I was not used and abused by DG; I peeped his game before it even got that far, thanks be to God because I applied scripture and asked for His wisdom concerning the matter!

Tiffany Thigpen Croft said...

Wow. I feel most of the time there is nothing constructive for me to add, so I just read the comments and do not post.
I will say that we need to remember there are hurting people here - there are some women and girls, husbands, etc. who are reading this and would never come forward with their personal stories because of the vicious attacks that they see here. We need to remember that it could be someone close to you and you might feel differently if that were the case. Please tread lightly. Some people's lives are essentially ruined because of this man (young girls, marriages, trust, spiritual lives).
Please know that we ALL realize that there are women out there who sought after his attention, who knew exactly what they were doing - BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE WHAT HE HAS DONE RIGHT!!! He should not have allowed things to happen, men have women throw themselves at them all of the time for celebrity power though these women are not right in these actions,it does not mean we excuse the men if they act on it.
HE WAS IN A LEADERSHIP position of the highest calling, the cause of Christ, he is accountable for more because he was called to more. He took on that roll and chose it. He also chose this path of manipulating and using women over this 20 years period - this is a sociopath who has perfected the art of seducing women and girls. Some were strong and able to not fall for his stuff, some did not even see it coming, some were already emotionally bankrupt and he used it against them, some just needed attention and he willingly gave it, some YOUNG GIRLS were innocent until this preacher gave them a lesson in filth, wait until you hear someday the garbage he spoke of to these children....we should be outraged plain and simple, by the abuses of this man.

Consenting or not, he abused his position for years upon years, different churches, different cities and towns. It is a LIFESTYLE, a choice. We are not speaking of an adulterous affair, we are talking about using countless people for his sickness and power trip, and leading MANY away from God and causing them to question ever trusting a Pastor again. Not just the victims, but their husbands, friends, family that suffered the after effects and stunning confessions.
I am so tired of hearing people defend him and stand by him and build his ego. That is why we are here all these years later with so many more victims, because to many people are willing to turn the other way while he uses and abuses people.
Who cares what he does right? Until it becomes your wife, sister or daughter. Because he "speaks the Word", because he "is so charasmatic", because he is a "celebrity", how about this one "because he is a pedophile and a sex maniac"? That's one to brag about right? Why don't we post this at his next Sunday sermon, "Come hear Pastor Gilyard, admitted pedophile and sex maniac -come hear him preach as he is so worthy of this Pastorate. Bring your daughters and wives in for counsel, he only meets behind closed doors in intimate settigns and don't worry, we have scores of Deacons and secretary's that won't tell a soul, because of who he is."
WAKE UP people, don't build him up by debating whether or not one, or two, or ten of these women knew what they were doing, that is not the point. There were countless numbers who had no intentions of being used by him.
I am so thankful that I had the strength and was in a place where I began to see that something wasn't right all those years ago. I had my ears pricked up when he decided it was time to make a move and I got away - praise the Lord! I do not know how my life would be altered if I had been raped by him, and it would have been raped because I was not consenting and I definitely did not view him romantically at all - for Heavens sake I only was in this position with him because I was corresponding with someone he was matchmaking me with and also I had consented to joining staff at his church, as I felt called to the ministry. My intentions were pure and I was 18 years old and very naive about the ways of the world because I was raised in a sheltered environment.
Yet still, when I began to feel warning bells at times (things he said, phone calls...) I would think I was misinterpreting it. Why? Because he would tell me I misinterpreted when I corrected him or questioned what he meant by that. There were times he made a twisted comment that could be taken one of two ways and I would ask "what did you just say?" and he would do the "Bill Clinton shuffle". He is very sneaky and conniving. I even felt guilty for questioning him. The people around me later said they had funny feelings about his possible intentions with me, but also chastised themselves because of "who he was". My own parents felt that way. This is a game to him people, he knows what he is doing.
But, when I walked away from him that one night, he did not go away, he did not correct this "misunderstanding"; he followed me, I picked up my pace and he did to, I ran out of the building towards my car, he ran after me. He tried to keep me from getting my keys in the door, he tried to shut my door, I had to physically shove him more than once to get in my vehicle, he then yelled at me through the glass as I backed out and then sped away. But, he was not apologizing, he was not asking forgiveness, he wanted me to fall into his plan. Unbeknownst to me, he had been grooming me into this position for months, earning my trust. I thought nothing of meeting him to talk, just as many trusted him to counsel them. This was back in 1991he has gotten much more crafty and he knows how to get his way better from all of the testimonies I have been told - he is a monster, a creep and a sociopath.
Tenise, you need to run! Run fast, he is sick and you need to not be afraid to leave, you need to be afraid to stay! Any of you other women who are still involved with him, have some self respect - you don't need him and you are living in sin. He is using you and soon you will be thrown away, I have heard countless stories of consenting heart broken women he has left behind. He DOES NOT care about you, he is playing you. Get away.
To all of you who have had a relationship with him - consenting or not - I am sorry you ever met him, got involved with him and I hope you can find healing in your souls, hearts and spirits. What he and Satan meant for destruction now needs to be used for good! Let God have it because HE alone can heal the wounds, I know there will be memories, but he can take the pain and confusion. Do not beat yourself up, just stand against him and Satan and call out to God!
I am saying all of this in love, though the words may seem harsh, it comes from frustration not anger. Darrell has no power to anger me or control me, but people who allow him to continue, that angers me. He is sick and he will continue this path, the rest of you need to decide if you are going to continue to walk that path with him - for whatever reasons you are doing it - or stand up and do something worthwhile!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for stepping in, and telling it like it really is.

Anonymous said...

How arrogant is DG? So arrogant that he has been installed as pastor of a church in Palatka. Unreal! He has no morals and he can't be preaching for the Lord. SAtan knows the bible as well. I feel DG is the next Jim Jones! Its sad. I heard one deacon say that if he went into a meeting with DG, you would have to repeat, "I know this man" over and over or else you'd come out questioning yourself. DG has that power over some people, well a LOT of people which is why he is still preaching and STILL on the internet and email doing what he does best, seek out his victims.
He is wrong and needs to make friends behind those steel bars!

He won't even listen to Hank Coxe, his attorney. He has him in a trans as well!

Tiffany Thigpen Croft said...

As posted previously, tomorrow was the next day on the schedule:

12/05/2008 DISPOSITION 09:00A - 5 330 E BAY ST (CIRCUIT)

Disposition (adj.): The final settlement of a matter. In a criminal procedure, disposition is the final settlement of a criminal case.

November 20, 2008 4:20 PM

Anonymous said...

12:32 EST
Live from the Courthouse. 4 defendants remaining, and no Gilyard or Coxe in sight. I suppose Gilyard will suddenly appear last or privately, although he is listed in the middle on the log. 3 visible media vans are posted at the rear entry. A fine day for justice, or possibly an auction of justi$e! We shall see.

Tiffany Thigpen Croft said...

Thank you for updates, anxious to see what happened. I did not go because I have a sick baby at home and couldn't leave her.

Anonymous said...

The case was passed. It does not make sense that the docket stated Disposition but they passed it as if it was a pre-trial. I hope Gilyard's attorney does not allow him to go to trial, he "sho nuff"will meet some friends!

Anonymous said...

That is the strategy. Allow time for the little girls to grow five more years in age. He will fare much better getting sentenced while a 19 or 20 year old woman is present in court having bared one child possibly, instead of 14 year old doe-eyed junior high girls standing there. Time equals money goes the saying. Well it is the other way around in the legal world. No matter what happens, God seen it all. With a 96% conviction rate in Duval County, Hank Coxe has been called on to provide expert legalese arounf the system! That former Deacon at FBC molested several little boys and was blessed with 6 months? Gilyard will accept not a day more for little girls! Probation, no admission of guilt, undisclosed $ettlement.

Anonymous said...

You can add one more to the count! There was another lawsuit filed Friday against Pastor Darrell Gilyard. Details to come...

Anonymous said...

Are any of you Christians? Please ask yourself. Christians are those who follow Christ. Now, would Christ speak negative about anyone? No! Jesus preached and told people to repent and to follow him. All of you that continue to place your postings, have no right to judge. God is in control. "Vengeance is mine", saith the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 7:1- Dont' judge other people, or you will be judged. You will be judged in the same way that you judge others, and the amount you give to others will be given to you.

Matthew 5:22- But I tell you, if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be judged. If you say bad things to a brother or sister, you will be judged by the council. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Anonymous said...

To set the record straight. He is not installed as pastor at a church in Palatka. When you post, post the facts, and not fiction.

Anonymous said...

Matthew 5:44- But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmm.....I wonder if anons 12/8 550 603 616 and 621 may be from DG himself......hmmmmmmm

Pastor Rod said...

Matt.7:16a,19 'You shall know them by their fruits(actions).(v19)"Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.......John 7:24"Judge nor according to the appearance,but judge RIGHTEOUS judgment.....1Cor.5:1-3,12-13..."There is reported commonly that there is Fornication(sexual immorality)among you,and such as is not so much as named among the Gentiles,that one should have his father's wife...(v2)And you are puffed up,and have not rather mourned,that HE THAT HATH DONE THIS DEED(Darrell)might be TAKEN away from AMONG YOU...(V12)For what have I to do judge them also that are without(unbelievers)?.Do not you JUDGE THEM THAT ARE WITHIN(The Church)?..(V13)But them that are without God judgeth(the Church).Therefore PUT AWAY FROM AMONG YOURSELVES THAT WICKED PERSON"......Eph.5:10-12"Proving what is acceptable(pleasing)unto yhe Lord..(v11)And have NO FELLOWSHIP with the the unfruitful works of darkness,but rather REPROVE(EXPOSE)THEM.......1Tim.5:17-20"Let the Elders that rule WELL be counted worthy of double honour,especially they who labor in the Word and Doctrine.(v19)Against an Elder recieve not and accusation,but before two or three witnesses(DG has multiple accusations)..(v20)THOSE THAT SIN(GUILTY)REBUKE(admonish them in the presence of all)THAT OTHERS ALSO MAY FEAR...Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God: but in works(deeds)they deny Him,being abominable,and DISOBEDIENT,and unto every good work reprobate"...1John 1:5-6 "This then is the message which we heard from Him(Jesus),and declare unto you,that God is Light,and in Him is no darkness at all..(v6) If we say that we have fellowship with Him,and walk(habitually)in darkness,we lie,and do not the Truth"....1John 3:9-10 "Whosoever is born of God does not commit(habitually)sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot(habitually)sin,because he is born of God..(v10a)In this the children of God are manifest(clearly revealed)and the children of the Devil: Whosoever doeth(habitually)not righteousness is not of God....Sinful actions can be judged[John 7:24]

Anonymous said...

Judged by who? You. I think not. You can continue to quote scriptures but unless your God, you still do not have the power to judge.

Pastor Rod said...

What am I suppose to go by; Your opinion? The Bible is clear from Genesis to Revelation that we can judge actions...By your thinking we can't call one a thief whole steals. We can not call a person who is married and commits sexual immorality and adulterer. We can not call one who premeditately kill someone a muderer. We can not call one who takes God name in vain a blasphemer.God gave His laws so that we would know that which is right and wrong..And come to think of it what you have done is made a judgment that anyone who judges one actions by God Word are wrong...That makes you a JUDGE..

Anonymous said...

Pastor Rod? For you to supposedly know the truth of the word and try to place judgement to another, is so surprising to me. Do you actually preach to a congregation of people?

I Corinthians 4:5- So do not judge before the right time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light things that are hidden in darkness, and will make known the secret purposes of people's heart. Then God will praise each one of them.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Rod, are you now making assumptions? Not one time did you read that I called your judging someone actions wrong. You read the scriptures yourself. However, I see you make your own opinions of them.

And by the way, from your response, not only are you a pastor, you also seem to be an attorney and/or the judge of the court.

Pastor Rod said...

Questio::Are all of the allegations against Darrell truth are fiction? And does the judicial system have the right to judge Darrell actions?

Anonymous said...

You asked, are the allegations true or fictions? Well, obviously that is why he is pending court action. The law of the land gives the authority for an individual to be found guilty or not guilty. However, the Bible teaches Christians about repentence, forgiveness, and loving one another. We live by God's law. So, whether he is found guilty or not guilty by the court, we still can not place him in heaven or hell.

Obviously, it seems that no matter what scriptures you read, you will have the final say. So if your choice is to judge, so be it. Hopefully, we can both continue to study the Word and live righteous in God's sight, and not my man's.

Pastor Rod said...

Agreed..Lets continue to study the Scriptures,love God and love each other.

Anonymous said...

The Lord is still working with me, and I have not always been saved! For right now, I will continue to feel free to stand against immoral,unGodly, and illegal sexual behavior by anyone, especially a man of the cloth! I can follow the Saviour's example with the temple pimps hustling God's people. Not only did he judge actions, he flung over the gambling tables, and probably swung on two or three of them! Jesus and his Word was not some quiet and mythical story. Jesus woke up every morning and grabbed his tool box just like the rest of us! Jesus was always found among the people. He also rendered unto Caesar, for those faithful who sit and pray without works, the JEA will not cut off utilities. We do have rules of law in spite of our faith. After the fourth or fifth church allegation, I personally don't see a problem with any other Pastor, speaking out against this sin! Darrell Gilyard has repeatedly shown us who he really is. Some of you refuse to believe it. Maybe when you personally hear him rattle off a seven word cursing about wanting to ravage a little girls privates, you will wake up! Spend $10 and purchase 40 pages of his text messages. If you still think that was normal behavior for a Pastor or grown man, then Slap yourself. Yes, I said it.

Anonymous said...

I would rather spend $10 towards helping someone that is in need or towards a church offering, than to spend it on reading 40 pages of text messages. You need to get a life. And furthermore, did you ever read a posting in which it stated that wrong doing was right? I certainly had not seen one. By the way, "You have said nothing!" You seem to suggest violent behavior (your slapping suggestion), contribute $10 to your own anger management counseling.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Rod, Please continue to speak and write the truth on this blog. It is needed. Folks need to wake up!!!

Anonymous said...

Better yet, let the Word of God speak for iself! Pastor God, oops I meant Rod, has his own opinion like most of us, which means absolutely nothing.

Pastor Rod said...

Anon 11:50am..Since you are a far more astute theologian than the rest of us morons....Why don't you in all your Biblical wisdom enlighten us as to what we should as a Church do with a habitually sinful Pastor in our midst???...We await your answer with bated breathe...PS. also give us idiots Scriptual references...Thanks Pastor Fool

Anonymous said...

As I stated, all of us has an opinion, including you, "Pastor". But since you asked for a scripture, I have one for you.

Mattew 7:3-5: "Why do you notice the little piece of dust in your friend's eye, but you don't notice the big piece of wood in your own eye? Look at yourself! You still have a big piece that big piece of wood in your own eye. You hypocrite! First, take the wood out of your own eye. Then you will see clearly to take the dust out of your friend's eye.

Anonymous said...

It is very sad when the CHURCH is not concerned about protecting our children from sexual abuse. And members are protecting sexual prediators.

Anonymous said...

Well the AIDS virus might stop them eventually..........

Anonymous said...

How would some of you posting these post feel if he molested your daughter or granddaughter? He should not be around children PERIOD.

Anonymous said...

Adulters have a stopping point. The stopping point may be the AIDS virus. God is still in control. Protect Gods children from child molester.........

Anonymous said...

DG has shown the public what he is about...........God has no respect of person......If you do the crime...then you should do the time.
I guess we are ready to open the jailhouse doors. Time is changing.....As for me.....I will try at any cost to protect the children from being molested by these dirty ole men.......

Anonymous said...

We fall down, but we get up. For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up.

Anonymous said...

say call a SPADE a SPADE and if the shoe fits wear it. DG is a child molester. Now if it is okay for him to molest your daughters and granddaughter.........you need prayer VERY BAD.....And that anyone can judge...........

Anonymous said...

Yes, and it is very sad when they KEEP FALLING....I guess they need a dictionary to look up the word repent means . Some just fall by the wayside, some straddle the fence, .........when the grass get greenier....or YOUNGER.

Anonymous said...

I suppose some of you should go and march to free child molester who repent. Now we will not need to have a court system. Man does not have the right to judge. Someone molests your daughter and come to you and say I am sorry......then they molest your neighbors daughter....times are changing. You people sure should spend some time visiting the prisons. I am very THANKFUL that my parents protected ME from being molested by these dirty ole men.

Anonymous said...

I never would attend a church that protected or supported a child molester. How can some of you attack any one on the blogs who does not support a child molester. Some of you people are truly lost. You are pathetic and using Gods word to justify sin. The sad part is that you are using God words to justify a sinful child molester. Hope you can turn the other cheek when your child is molested. I suppose this is why there was so much child abuse in the Catholic Church because of people pathetic hypocrites like some of you. Pastor Rod PLEASE continue to stand up for what is RIGHT. They probably have so many skeletons in their closets that it would fill up the graveyard.

Anonymous said...

Let's see, that is two children molested at this current time that we know about, several different adultery paternity settlements already in effect, one currently in litigation, a new civil lawsuit on his former church, and a lost count of allegations with former associated members...You see where this has gone? It is because his actions were finally judged by someone, that brother cookie monster is forced out of Shiloh's cookie jar.
Maybe he needs to change his name back to Darrol Gillard! No matter what your opinion, the laws of both God and man will be implemented. In closing, American Express just filed a civil lawsuit last week against Gilyard. According to some, it will be wrong for him to be judged for his actions or inactions. No one relishes in any brother's downfall, or children being molested, but when that brother won't repent and seeks to hide his hand, what should the church do? That molestation ain't our business attitude is the equivalent of a stop snitching movement by middle-aged, smitten lovers of Gilyard. He does not want you! He likes little girls now.

Anonymous said...

Let the church say amen!

Anonymous said...

Amen, Amen, Amen!

Pastor Rod said...

Theologian you still did not answer my question...What should the Church do with a habitually sinning Pastor like Darrell Gilyard?..Should they remove him from ministry or leave him alone?..And a second question; What is Church discipline;And what is it's purpose?...Thank you for blessing us with your wisdom!

Anonymous said...

Those without sin throw the first stone. Well, I am glad to see that all of you are without sin, because you definitely have thrown your share of stones.

Anonymous said...

Pastor God (Rod), it is apparent you and your followers will judge him and possibly send him to hell. However, if there is another church that chooses not to do the same, then I guess it is out of your hands.

And by your smart alec comments within your postings. It seems that you need to examine yourself.

Anonymous said...

Posting from 3:02, apparently you're the smitten, middle-aged women that wanted him and he didn't give you the time of day. Is that why you're so upset?

Pastor Rod said...

Theologian let me get this straight...Are you saying that if you were in leadership position you would do nothing and leave Darrell in his position as Pastor over your congregation?

Anonymous said...

This is why the Church has to within us, because many will be deceived in the last days. They will believe a lie rather than the truth. So many are lost because they do not seek the truth. They want to cover things up. Pastors fail to practice what they preach. They do not lead by example. Whoremonger....yes God will judge. Repentance means ask for forgiveness and turn away from your wicked ways.

Anonymous said...

Pastor God (Rod), do you spend as much time studying the scriptures, as you do posting on this website?

Anonymous said...

This is for all of you that are condemning Gilyard for committing a sin. And for those of you, that are in rage because of the scriptures speak the truth, read:

I John 4:7,8,& 11-
Beloved let us love one another for love is God; and everyone that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
He that loveth not, knoweth not God for God is love.
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

So, if you are at rage because the scriptures,then rage on.

Pastor God.err(Rod) said...

Theologian...You have still not answered my question...I will ask you one more time...Are you saying that if you were in leadership position you would do nothing and leave Darrell in his position as Pastor over your congregation?...Asimple yes are no will suffice!!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:44 - Gilyard apparently didn't just "commit a sin." He apprently made a lifestyle of sexually assaulting women and children, using the church as his cover. That is evil. It is not sin. It is evil because sexual immorality is evil. Read your Bible; especially Ephesians 4 and 5. Sexual immorality has no place in the life of a true believer.

Re: I John passages - you should read the ENTIRE book of I John, not just a few verses.
I John 2:3 says, "We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands."
I John 2:9 says, "Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness." Sexual abuse is hateful.
I John 2:15 says, "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For everything in the world--the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does--comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever."
I John 3:6 says, "No one who lives in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen Him or known Him."
I John 3:18,19 says, "Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. This then is how we know that we belong to the truth..."
I John 5:2 says, "This is how we know that we love the children of God: by love God and carrying out his commands. This is the love of God: to obey His commands..."
I John 5:18 says, "...anyone born of God does not continue to sin."

In other words, love without obedience is not genuine. It is false.

As for the "free grace" theory you are supposing we should all embrace... There are many who believe that the "free grace" movement is nothing more than "cheap" grace...and even heresy. Forgiveness without confession and repentance is not forgiveness.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:47

Job well done. Round of applause.

Pastor Rod said...

Thank you for that Word Anon 10:47pm Dec.9,2008...WELL DONE!!!

Anonymous said...

I too, thank you Reverend Rod. Certainly we love DG, the constant sins is what we dislike, especially from a man of the cloth. Sometimes children see their parents being strong leaders in the Church but when behind closed doors the parents do all kinds of ungodly things. Therefore, we must continue to pray for one another that one day they will change their unholy ways. In the meantime we must do all that we can to protect our children from harm.

Anonymous said...

Let's be very clear, so all the admitted child molester Darrell Gilyard lovers can stop mincing allegations and portions of scripture: The citizens of both Florida and Texas want the true Darroll Gillard to face these just and lawful earthly rules. Everyone agrees that his unrepentant soul belongs to God, but that silver-tongued, earthly and deviant shell belongs to the Florida Department of Corrections, Sexual Predator Facility. God know what happened and so does those victims.
Now I say, exactly WHAT is the church and the law to do when a man of the cloth is publicy commiting fornication, adultery, molestation, and lewdness, not paying debts, and dodging various paternity responsibilities?

Anonymous said...

OK... somebody really thinks that DG is ok and we are supposed to ignore his behavior and JUST Love him. Are you serious? I'm praying for justice!!! Pastor Rod, please keep telling the truth! You are awesome and God is using you. For anyone to think that we should move on or not post... why are you still posting... especially when most of the posters think that you are in denial... OK... To Tiffany, please keep this blog going.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Rod... Just a little encouragement here (not that you need it). We know that you study the scriptures! We know that you speak truth and life. We all (except for the folks who think we should forgive and move on) appreciate your posts! Keep at it. I can forgive but if you touched my child... I'd have more than a blog going! Whoever the person is that is posting all of the love and no justice mess... I would never entrust my children to you. This attitude is just as frightening as what was done by DG. I really wonder if it is DG or someone VERY close to him monitoring and posting. Not to worry Pastor Rod.. There are more of us posting in favor of you presenting the truth than the DENIAL folks who view SIN through rose colored glasses. Preach on Pastor Rod!!!! Amen...

Anonymous said...

What???? (We fall down, but we get up. For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up. December 9, 2008 12:57 PM)

For the record, this is a song! Most of us know it. This is not what God intended for us. OK... You may fall down and get up but when does this mess stop? Keep breaking the law and we will see if you would be interested in singing this tired behind song ... especially in jail. This really made me laugh. Whatever happened to people really having a heart for God and living a Godly life. You can never get away with thinking that a lifestlye of sin is ok. Just fall down and get back up over and over again. When do you mature in Christ! I know this... Folks who are going to hear him speak have blinders on... This is starting to sound like some Jim Jones mess. Do whatever and it's ok... I don't think so. No Kool-Aid for me. I couldn't be married to a man who has this much mess behind him. At first I felt sorry for his wife... Now... I don't. Somebody needs to let him know that his STUFF stinks!!!

Anonymous said...

The majority of you are living "of this world" and not of God. That's why you are all in agreement. Narrow is the road to the Kingdom. Are you on the wide track?

Pastor Rod said...

...You have still have not answered my question...I will ask you once again ...Are you saying that if you were in leadership position you would do nothing and leave Darrell in his position as Pastor over your congregation?...Please a simple yes are no answer will suffice!!!

Anonymous said...

Response to: The majority of you are living "of this world" and not of God. That's why you are all in agreement. Narrow is the road to the Kingdom. Are you on the wide track? December 10, 2008 12:31 PM

Let's see... The majority of us on this blog are for doing what is right before God and living a life that is committed to serving Him and blessing others.

The minority is indicating that we need to forgive, not post, and forget that this mess happened. Oh trust me, we can forgive and pray for folks that are stuck on stupid but if they keep repeating the same stupid mistakes, then that is a serious problem. Doesn't matter who it is. Wait maybe you have already had too much Kool-Aid and are ready to board the flight with Jim Jones to the point of no return. I'm praying for you because that is the wide road.

Waiting for the next post from Pastor Rod. He is so on point as well as others who have noted scripture that speaks out against foolishness.

Anonymous said...

Response to: Those without sin throw the first stone. Well, I am glad to see that all of you are without sin, because you definitely have thrown your share of stones. December 9, 2008 5:09 PM

Who would write something like this but a person who is still living a lifestyle that doesn't line up with God's plan. Too funny! Without sin....are you kidding me. Yes.. that's it. You have jokes. None of us are perfect... at the same time, we are not committing crimes either. Someone posted that this must be DG. I agree... must be DG or someone he has monitoring this blog. That's ok. The responses against this mess is so on point!!! Thank God for folks who have a TRUE relationship with God!

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmm.....I wonder if anons 12/8 550 603 616 and 621 may be from DG himself......hmmmmmmm

December 8, 2008 6:52 PM

Good question. I think so!!! It is amazing that this person keeps thinking that we should ignore this mess. How sad for HIM or HER!

Anonymous said...

Response to:
Pastor Rod said...
...You have still have not answered my question...I will ask you once again ...Are you saying that if you were in leadership position you would do nothing and leave Darrell in his position as Pastor over your congregation?...Please a simple yes are no answer will suffice!!!
December 10, 2008 4:21 PM

Good Question Pastor Rod. Intersting no response yet.

Anonymous said...

Where is the media coverage on this? They keep up with everything else.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have any information on the American Express lawsuit which was filed recently ??????

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